Trouble in Solar Paradise

Twenty-two months ago I added a new 230ah 48v Trophy battery to our solar system. That coincided with a major upgrade to the entire solar system we have here at the glamstead. The system seriously changed our lifestyle in several ways; 1) air conditioning all night if needed, 2) bathroom electric baseboard heat 24/7 in the winter, 3) and double the AC power along with 240v capability. The system purred along flawlessly…until about 5 months ago.

Sometime in September (last year) I just happened to be in the utility room and I noticed that all batteries were charging, but the two Elite batteries (205ah 48v) were not displaying the same number of lights on the State of Charge (SOC) indicator. One was at 83% and the other was at 67% SOC but both were charging. I thought it was nothing more than a balancing issue so I basically ignored it. Ooooppppssssss…

A week later I was again in the utility room to get a tool on a cloudy day and I noticed that the lights were once again doing the same thing but not charging…it was 100% overcast. Now it got my attention. Fast forward 5 months…problem with one of our Elite batteries. From my best guess it is now at about 70 – 75% total capacity of the other Elite battery. Meaning it is now a 145 – 150ah battery. Not good, but not life endangering either. Obviously the battery has one or more weak “cells” in my way of thinking, the other cells are still doing their job.

Let me do a quick recap…I have 3 batteries in my solar system; a single 2-year old Trophy battery that is 230ah, and 2 Elite batteries that are 205ah each, totaling 640ah or 37.7kwh. Decent sized battery bank for an off-grid home. The two Elite batteries were bought at different times, 1 in early 2021, the other in late 2021. The Trophy battery was added in December 2022. All batteries match charging parameters (+/-.1volts).

I initially thought the batteries would eventually balance, match similar SOC, and maintain that for the most part. I was wrong. Each battery acts independent in charging and discharging…which actually turned out to be a blessing. The Elites generally discharge slightly faster than the Trophy and generally lag when charging. But no problems overall with maintaining a nice amount of power in the bank. Well, until I noticed the one Elite having an issue.

A visit to the shop where I bought them was warranted…for a warranty claim. (yes, pun intended) Ah, problem…the commie company in China that made the batteries was no longer around and not available to stand behind the warranty. That’s what I get for “bargain shopping” critical components. Yes, I did know what I was getting into at the time…money was an issue.

So here is where I’m at…battery bank is now at about 590ah vs 640ah. Let’s call it an 8% loss of power storage…maybe 10%. And on top of that…a weak battery with no idea for sure how long it will last. The good thing is that each battery is acting independently and doesn’t “draw-down” power from the other batteries to maintain the weak one. I guess it is a combination of the batteries’ BMS controllers and the design of the LifePo4 chemistry. But, I am still left with a somewhat bogus battery.

The owner of the shop where I bought it is also a very good friend of mine and felt terrible about the problem…but I was not the only person in the same boat…but he couldn’t stand 100% behind the warranty without the manufacturer supporting him. Unfortunate, but understandable. Given that he is a trustworthy person we came to a deal…he would do a “cost only” sale…and would do a trade for the amount due for something I had that he wanted and I could easily live without. Done! But here is where it gets interesting…

200Ah batteries are not cheap as of yet, although 100ah batteries have come down dramatically…now $800 – $1,000 all over the place. I will be the proud recipient of two of the new MidNite MNPowerflo5 Lithium Iron Phosphate server rack battery (100ah, 51.2v, 5.1kwh). The charge parameters are close enough to my existing batteries that there will be no issues. But WAIT you say! These are 100ah batteries not 200ah batteries…they won’t work!!! Ah, they will.

You see I will place the 2 new batteries together and parallel connect them together, then connect them to my Victron PowerIn bussbar unit. My system will then see the 2 new batteries as a single 200ah battery. And, each batteries BMS will control the batteries as needed during charge/discharge operations.

Here’s what the new battery bank will look like…

So a logical question would be…So these two new batteries replace the one existing weak battery? Nope!

The “weak” battery is still fully functional/operational at this point…just not maintaining its full capacity. So I will keep the weak battery in the bank and simply add the two new ones. Yup, that takes me from about approximately 590ah (30kwh) to 770ah (39kwh). Not bad, eh? And yes, I will keep a close eye on the weak battery and remove it from the bank if I notice it harming overall system operations.

Moral of the story…sometimes a problem turns into a blessing.

Also…I want to add into this conversation a point that I cannot stress enough. If you are going to have solar, especially if off-grid, it is essential to have some knowledge about how solar works…including the equipment specs and the general theories of each process step. Why? Can you imagine if a retail guy had installed the system, and I had the same problem, what would/could have been the outcome?

I can tell you this…based on people I know who were in trouble situations (i.e. not enough panels, not enough batteries, etc.) most solar companies would try and sell you a whole new system, or at least part of one) and make it sound like the only viable option. Why? Because an unknowledgeable solar system owner would have no idea that the real problem was only a single weak battery…an $1,800 fix vs laying out 10’s of thousands of dollars for stuff not needed.

Yeah, I can’t help myself…I will post about the install/upgrade and include pictures. And FYI…I got my hands on 6 more compatible solar panels so you know what that means…a new array for the system in the near future!!!


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TRAP: Solar – Growatt Inverter/Charge Controller

The Growatt SPF series of inverters has problems…serious problems if you don’t know how to fix them. The inverter unit also contains an integrated MPPT charge controller built in. And the unit has a great price point for 6kw/240vAC inverter. It can also handle 80a of PV input. Appears to be a perfect choice for off-grid operations on a budget.

But, I have personally installed one of these units for a friend and experienced problems. Later I found out there are known problems with these units, the SPF series. They will sometimes appear to overload within their 6kw/240vAC capacity and simply go off-line. They have also been known to have their integrated charge controller go off-line, without warning, which runs the battery bank down shutting down the system.

Fortunately there appears to be software/firmware upgrades that can remedy these problems. It did on the installation that I accomplished…but it took us time and interaction with the manufacturer.

So be pretty savvy yourself and know how to upgrade the firmware and software…and know how to modify the unit’s settings correctly. Or if someone installed your system for you, make sure they are aware of the problems and know the “fixes” to make. Or, buy a system that isn’t engineered and manufactured in China.

So the unit is usable and like I said…a great price point for the features. Just be aware of the problems. Know what you are getting yourself into.

And of course…one more thing. The Growatt units are marketed in the USA by a company called Growatt USA. It is owned by the parent company located in China, although run in the US by leadership in California. The person in charge in the USA is a nice lady but she lacks technical knowledge. And the lead for US marketing is an Australian who is a nice guy, has technical knowledge, but is lacking ability to resolve/troubleshoot issues relating to the units themselves.

The parent company also owns a lithium battery manufacturing company called FNS.The idea was to have an inverter unit (with integrated MPPT charge controller) and lithium batteries that work and communicate together. Great idea! But they fell short in getting all the bugs worked out before they went to market. More on the batteries tomorrow.

This is a cautionary “Trap” warning…not a “Do Not Buy!” warning. More like “Buy At Your Own Risk & be Prepared to Work Through It” warning.


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2021 Solar System Configuration

I received a couple requests for more information on the solar system design I mentioned in two earlier posts regarding some of the equipment.

So I have attached a PDF file that shows the design in detail, the reasoning for the equipment, and how it all works together.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

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