Feedback : Odd… #1

AH Trimble Feedback and CommentsI wrote an article on the 29th < This must stop… > condemning the violence, the attacks on law enforcement, the interference of ICE to do their job, the destruction, and the killings, etc. And apparently some folks didn’t like me calling for a stop to it. I find that odd, disturbingly so. I was calling for a stop to the violence and hatred. I said if it didn’t stop we might end up in a very dark and ugly place. I thought that was a reasonable call to action…stop the violence and hatred.

I received replies/comments from two folks, one of which I know, the other I don’t. It appears to me one is very radically on the pro-violence and far-right of the issue, clearly so. The other response was more of a sharing of another person’s opinion. I responded to their replies. After I did so I thought it through and I think we have hit political obstacle…maybe a dead end to this issue altogether. But for sure…an issue where few are willing to drop bias and change their minds or see reality for what it is vs perception.

So here is what I am going to do…I am going to make two separate posts regarding their views/comments and my replies. I think it prudent to share both sides, different views on this situation. But then I will call the issue closed. Why? Because it is more polarizing than any other issue that I have seen in a very long time. And should the polarization continue at this trajectory all that is needed would be an event, an incident, that would be the ignition point to a far darker time in America than any reasonable person wants.

RE: This must stop…

Texas Dan wrote:

“So here’s my question – the people engaging in these protests are not in fact protesting, they are in open insurrection to the government and laws of this country. Should we care if they are treated without mercy? Paging General Sherman to the white courtesy phone.

Look I have never been a fan of the feds and their tactics, dating to Little Rock in the 50’s in my lifetime and the aforementioned “activity” of Mr. Lincoln in my family’s past. I think your point is that there has to be a middle ground that can be reached, but when have the lawless left ever been satiated? And which laws do they get to ignore to make them happy?

I don’t think the country that would allow a solution exists anymore – you win or you don’t.”

My reply to Texas Dan:

“open insurrection to the government”…I think not. Law breaking on both sides…yes, absolutely…mostly the protestors. Blowing a whistle and holding up an anti-ICE sign is not “insurrection”.

They are humans and should be treated as such. The people that are citizens should be treated in accordance with the Constitution as well as with human dignity…and not shot to death.

General Sherman was at best a war criminal…actually, nothing more than a brutal, murderous animal. <please read We are a Warlike People !>

I didn’t call for a middle ground…I called for everyone to stop the violence before it leads to civil war. And that would play directly into the hands of TPTB.

The protestors need to abide by the law…Constitutional law. And even then, if they break the law they still need due process…not ICE agents that act as judge, jury, and executioner. That is not due process, nor even in the realm of decency.

I agree…the country no longer has a true solution…we have lost our way. And the violence that we see, on both sides, is a result of that lost way.

I would like everyone to read the words to America the Beautiful…there is a clue in there on how we should behave. And it has to do with “mercy”. <please read America the Beautiful !>

AH

Texas Dan then responded with:

“Organized and fully funded “protest” groups are the very definition of an insurgency and thus, in open rebellion. You don’t strike me as naive, but I do beleive you have an historic view of the state of our country and not one reflective of the color revolution shock troops our mistaken President Obama introduced and the brain addled Biden supplemented with 15-20 million slave troops.

They want a Chavez, they should get a Pinochet. Good luck in the coming times.”

My response to that was:

Your definition of “insurgency” is highly inaccurate according the actual legal term(s)…not even close. By your definition…the Jan6th mob were terrorists in open rebellion and thus should have been hanged for treason. And yet, Trump pardoned them. So, according to your use of the term insurgency…what now? And those protesting in MN are not attacking the capital at least. Have you thought that through? 

I don’t consider myself naive, but maybe so. I am more ideological by my way of thinking. I believe in Christ for morals and the Founding Fathers for my political principles.

Their views on central government were very clear…more so regarding state’s rights. And they were for sure not authoritarian. And Washington himself warned us against political parties. Yet, here we are.

A balanced view of life in the US is difficult at best, impossible most of the time. Reality has a habit of clashing with perception.

All the best…we will all need buckets of luck and amazing faith in the days ahead.

And just for the record…did you find fault with me calling for a stop to the violence?

There were no additional replies from Texas Dan.


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2 thoughts on “Feedback : Odd… #1

  1. Your blog, your rules and this will be my last comment or visit because you have clearly set yourself as similar to the 30 odd % during the Founding who predated Reginald Denny with the mewling “why can’t we all get along”.I love how you immediately label me as right wing and pro violence – but I think it’s a mantle I will wear with pride. The problem with you moderate libertarian types, is you actually can’t have it both ways in situations like this.

    So here’s a thought experiment. I actually take more issue with the current protestors and the “squishy middle” than I did with the war protestors in 68 or even Ms. Sheehan. Why? Because things like police actions or interventions in SE Asia or the Middle East can be abstract enough to engender thoughtful protest. And forget saying those were government sanctioned and thus legal activities. No declaration of war for 11 and 18 year conflicts is bogus and everyone knows it.

    Today, you have a fully funded mob that is advocating the complete nullification of federal law and our borders and are willing to impede, obstruct and even harm the people we entrust to ensure those laws and our borders are enforced. If you had Dr. King marching peacefully, totes cool. But this lot? No.

    You and they want to change the laws, there’s a process and if you can’t get want you want that way because throwing open our borders is a death sentence to legislators, you work to fully gain the levers of power in the government and you go Lincoln on the people that actually prefer secure borders and deporting the 50 million people here who are breaking the law, just by being here!

    You can beleive that failure to protect our borders and that illegals are not corrosive to our society, all you want. I don’t. And I actually do wish we could all get along. But I am curious, at what point do you finally reach a moment when you are willing to stand your ground and say this isn’t the America I signed up for? Understanding that violence orders of magnitude worse than two idiots getting killed in MSP may be required? I lived in Europe for years in my youth and there are places today in London and Paris I now can’t go. It’s too late there, probably too late for MSP. I have chosen that I’m not one who will say “everything is fine” and leave this rot to my great grandchildren.

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    • Now I am wondering if TexasDan is a bot generated by AI. Here’s why…

      …I love how you immediately label me as right wing and pro violence…

      If you read my replies to TexasDan I never, ever do any such thing. Then, as I read his reply it starts to ramble vs targeting anything I said. Then he said “You can beleive that failure to protect our borders and that illegals are not corrosive to our society, all you want.” Actually, I am very, very pro-secure borders and even publically thanked Trump for doing so. And I have advocated for deportation for years.

      So bottom line…TexasDan, if he is a real person is not understanding what I am writing about…not even close. Although I give him credit, he is passionate…just off track when it comes to what I am saying. BUT…I now believe TexasDan to be some kind of AI bot that is trying to create conflict by misrepresenting the truth.

      I will post a notice separately to reply this information.
      AH

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